Post by D-Vader on Oct 20, 2004 14:31:47 GMT -5
Just finished watching this. I have to say, you have a hard heart if you do not at least feel a little sad about things. I know that probably the one thing that would hurt me the most would be to lose my son. I've lost friends and family due to situations beyond our control. I've known fellow airmen who died in the Khobar Towers bombing in June 1996. I could have very easily been one of them.
My orders from tech school were that I report to the 58th FS when I arrived at my Permanent Duty Station at Eglin AFB, FL. Due to some changes, I ended up in the 33d Maintenance Squadron. That was December 1995. By the time June rolled around, I was fully certified and went TDY (Temporary Duty) to Las Vegas. I had forgotten about my original orders, but knew the 58th was over in Saudi. I found out on my way to Vegas that there was a bombing in Saudi, and tried to catch it on the news. As soon as I got back to Eglin in August, I checked my original orders again. Yep, I would have been there, and I could have died. I know pain. I know suffering. I watched grown men cry because their friends and comrades died in a terrorist attack. I came to loathe the song, "I believe I can fly" because of how many times I heard it in regards to death.
I know that anyone who joins the military and thinks that they won't face war or death is being naive. The benefits make joining the military worthwhile. God knows the pay doesn't. To have health care and housing provided to you means a lot today, and don't blame people for joining up to make their lives better down the road. But to gloss over the fact that you could die and your life will more than likely be miserable than good during your time in is a down right shame. Anyone enlisting should have full on knowledge of what they're getting into. I was lucky. Very lucky.
Michael Moore shows us many points that were not covered during the last 3 years. I have often thought it was odd that Cheney's Haliburton got the contracts to the Iraqi war. I didn't realize how deep these ties go, and how interrelated the 'good old boys club' was.
You can say what you want about Moore (personally I think he's a bit self-serving), but the truth is he gave us something that we have not been getting. Knowledge. I never liked Bush, and I've never voted for him, not even for governor. He is a member of society that I instinctly loathe due to the fact that he's never had to be without. I have. I know what it's like to shift funds around so that food is available. I know what it's like to be made fun of because all your jeans are rustlers, and not levi's or guess or cavaricci, or whatever brand is popular. I know what it's like to have to make the shoes last to the end of the school year, even though the front is flapping worse than a dehydrated dog at a water bowl. Being without sucks, but not knowing what it's like to be without is even worse.
I think this movie should be re-released the weekend before the election. I think we need bush and his croneys out of office. He's not been good to us, and I seriously doubt he'll be good to us in the next four years. I don't necessarily want Kerry in, but shit, a democrat tends to think of the people, not his pocket. (note - that's not always the case)
I voted for Nader last time around hoping that maybe, just maybe, he could get enough votes to make America realize that the two party system is due for a change. He didn't, and Bush became president.
I don't care where your political affiliation lies, you need to see this movie. At least take a look at the other side, so that your argument for your affiliation isn't deemed unfit for american consumption.
My orders from tech school were that I report to the 58th FS when I arrived at my Permanent Duty Station at Eglin AFB, FL. Due to some changes, I ended up in the 33d Maintenance Squadron. That was December 1995. By the time June rolled around, I was fully certified and went TDY (Temporary Duty) to Las Vegas. I had forgotten about my original orders, but knew the 58th was over in Saudi. I found out on my way to Vegas that there was a bombing in Saudi, and tried to catch it on the news. As soon as I got back to Eglin in August, I checked my original orders again. Yep, I would have been there, and I could have died. I know pain. I know suffering. I watched grown men cry because their friends and comrades died in a terrorist attack. I came to loathe the song, "I believe I can fly" because of how many times I heard it in regards to death.
I know that anyone who joins the military and thinks that they won't face war or death is being naive. The benefits make joining the military worthwhile. God knows the pay doesn't. To have health care and housing provided to you means a lot today, and don't blame people for joining up to make their lives better down the road. But to gloss over the fact that you could die and your life will more than likely be miserable than good during your time in is a down right shame. Anyone enlisting should have full on knowledge of what they're getting into. I was lucky. Very lucky.
Michael Moore shows us many points that were not covered during the last 3 years. I have often thought it was odd that Cheney's Haliburton got the contracts to the Iraqi war. I didn't realize how deep these ties go, and how interrelated the 'good old boys club' was.
You can say what you want about Moore (personally I think he's a bit self-serving), but the truth is he gave us something that we have not been getting. Knowledge. I never liked Bush, and I've never voted for him, not even for governor. He is a member of society that I instinctly loathe due to the fact that he's never had to be without. I have. I know what it's like to shift funds around so that food is available. I know what it's like to be made fun of because all your jeans are rustlers, and not levi's or guess or cavaricci, or whatever brand is popular. I know what it's like to have to make the shoes last to the end of the school year, even though the front is flapping worse than a dehydrated dog at a water bowl. Being without sucks, but not knowing what it's like to be without is even worse.
I think this movie should be re-released the weekend before the election. I think we need bush and his croneys out of office. He's not been good to us, and I seriously doubt he'll be good to us in the next four years. I don't necessarily want Kerry in, but shit, a democrat tends to think of the people, not his pocket. (note - that's not always the case)
I voted for Nader last time around hoping that maybe, just maybe, he could get enough votes to make America realize that the two party system is due for a change. He didn't, and Bush became president.
I don't care where your political affiliation lies, you need to see this movie. At least take a look at the other side, so that your argument for your affiliation isn't deemed unfit for american consumption.
Jango-Joe1